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== Template talk:R from initialism §Proposed merge from {{tl|R from an incomplete name}} ==
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== Requested move ==

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:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of a [[WP:RM|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. ''

The result of the move request was: '''page moved''' per request. - [[User:GTBacchus|GTBacchus]]<sup>([[User talk:GTBacchus|talk]])</sup> 20:08, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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[[Template:R from an incomplete name]] → {{noredirect|1=Template:R from incomplete name}} — to conform with every other redirect template. '''[[User:Mclay1|<span style="color:red;">McLerristarr</span>]]&nbsp;/&nbsp;[[User talk:Mclay1|<span style="color:blue;">Mclay1</span>]]''' 05:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a [[WP:RM|requested move]].  <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.''</div><!-- Template:RM bottom -->

== Merge/Redirect proposal ==

This template, [[Template:R from incomplete name|R from incomplete name]], should be [[WP:MERGE|merged]] with the template [[Template:R from short name|R from short name]] and made into a [[Template:R to redirect template|redirect to it]] ([[WP:RCAT|Rcat]]), due to the great similarity between the two in meaning. Either of these templates could easily be mistaken or misinterpreted for the other, as they are so nearly identical in both purpose and meaning, and therefore the two should not exist as completely separate redirect templates. Since [[Template:R from incomplete name|this template]] is a subcategory of [[Template:R from short name|R from short name]], the redirect should be from here to the latter.&emsp;&mdash;&nbsp;'''''<span style="text-decoration: overline underline;"><big>|</big>[[User:JPæst|<span style="color: #00FF0F;">J</span>]][[Special:Contributions/JPaestpreornJeolhlna|<span style="color: #0FF;">~</span>]][[User talk:JPæst|<span style="color: #00F;">Pæst</span>]]<big>|</big></span>'''''  00:53, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
:As I understand it, {{tlx|r from incomplete name}} is used when the name is officially considered ''incomplete'' (but not outright ''[[Template:R from incorrect name|incorrect]]'') despite being sufficient to unambiguously identify the subject. {{tlx|r from short name}} is when the short name has some official approval. --[[User:SoledadKabocha|SoledadKabocha]] ([[User talk:SoledadKabocha|talk]]) 00:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
::To '''''<span style="text-decoration: overline underline;"><big>|</big>[[User:JPæst|<span style="color: #00FF0F;">J</span>]][[Special:Contributions/JPaestpreornJeolhlna|<span style="color: #0FF;">~</span>]][[User talk:JPæst|<span style="color: #00F;">Pæst</span>]]<big>|</big></span>''''' & [[User:SoledadKabocha|SoledadKabocha]]:  I have been wondering the same as you, JPæst, because as I look at the entries in the two cats, it seems as though most editors don't know the difference.  The same goes for {{tl|R from shortening}} and its cat.  SoledadKabocha, the difference you cite seems to be too subtle for most editors to discern.  If I may, I suggest that all three be combined to '''{{tl|R from short name}}''' and its cat.  This would eliminate the anomaly you cite below, as well. &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''</b>]]</sup> 09:19, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
:::I am '''neutral''' as to any merge. But I realize that I may have been a little sloppy in explaining originally. From what I understand of the fact that "incomplete" categorizes as unprintworthy while "short" does not, the distinction is primarily of whether the short name follows the usual printworthiness guidelines. I assume that a merged template would require users to manually specify "r printworthy" or "r unprintworthy" to make any claims of (un)printworthiness? --[[User:SoledadKabocha|SoledadKabocha]] ([[User talk:SoledadKabocha|talk]]) 17:57, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
::::That's a correct assumption – at this point I see no reason why a default printworthiness is needed.  Thank you! &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''</b>]]</sup> 09:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::I'm restoring this template, and strongly recommend keeping these cases distinct, as per {{u|SoledadKabocha}}. While short names may be printworthy or not, these ones clearly aren't. More importantly, while links to a proper short name may be kept, these ones should be replaced by the correct, full name. I came here, quite irritated to see {{tlx|R from incomplete title}} being redirected to {{tlx|R from short name}}. Don't know if everybody understands the difference, but if not, this might be, because we didn't explain it well enough. Similar templates are often listed and the difference explained on the transcluded template, and there's no reason why we can't do the same here. If some still don't get the the difference, this is no major problem, and in fact it's better to have 50% of these redirects correctly categorized, than none. --[[User:PanchoS|PanchoS]] ([[User talk:PanchoS|talk]]) 15:34, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

== Unprintworthy or not ==

The template categorizes articlespace redirects as unprintworthy. However, the displayed instructions say "It is not necessary to replace links to this redirect with piped links." Are these contradictory, and what should be done if so? --[[User:SoledadKabocha|SoledadKabocha]] ([[User talk:SoledadKabocha|talk]]) 00:47, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

== State State ==
{| class="wikitable sortable mw-datatable sticky-header-multi sort-under plainrowheaders" style="text-align: center;"
|+ United States <code><nowiki>[[</nowiki>''State'' State<nowiki>]]</nowiki></code> redirects and their targets
|-
! scope="col" | Flag and name !! scope="col" | Redirect !! scope="col" | Target
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Alabama}}
| {{no redirect|Alabama State}} || [[Alabama State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Alaska}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|Alaska State}} || [[Alaska]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Arizona}}
| {{no redirect|Arizona State}} || [[Arizona State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Arkansas}}
| {{no redirect|Arkansas State}} || [[Arkansas State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|California}}
| {{no redirect|California State}} || [[California State University]]
|-
! scope="row"| {{flaglist|Colorado}}
| {{no redirect|Colorado State}} || [[Colorado State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Connecticut}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|Connecticut State}} ||
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Delaware}}
| {{no redirect|Delaware State}} || [[Delaware State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Florida}}
| {{no redirect|Florida State}} || [[Florida State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Georgia (U.S. state)|name=Georgia}}
| {{no redirect|Georgia State}} || [[Georgia State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Hawaii}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|Hawaii State}} || [[Hawaii]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Idaho}}
| {{no redirect|Idaho State}} || [[Idaho State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Illinois}}
| {{no redirect|Illinois State}} || [[Illinois State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Indiana}}
| {{no redirect|Indiana State}} || [[Indiana State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Iowa}}
| {{no redirect|Iowa State}} || [[Iowa State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Kansas}}
| {{no redirect|Kansas State}} || [[Kansas State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Kentucky}}
| {{no redirect|Kentucky State}} || [[Kentucky State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Louisiana}}
| {{no redirect|Louisiana State}} || [[Louisiana State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Maine}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|Maine State}} ||
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Maryland}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|Maryland State}} || [[Maryland]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Massachusetts}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|Massachusetts State}} ||
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Michigan}}
| {{no redirect|Michigan State}} || [[Michigan State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Minnesota}}
| {{no redirect|Minnesota State}} || [[Minnesota State University, Mankato]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Mississippi}}
| {{no redirect|Mississippi State}} || [[Mississippi State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Missouri}}
| {{no redirect|Missouri State}} || [[Missouri State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Montana}}
| {{no redirect|Montana State}} || [[Montana State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Nebraska}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|Nebraska State}} || [[Nebraska]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Nevada}}
| {{no redirect|Nevada State}} || [[Nevada State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|New Hampshire}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|New Hampshire State}} || [[New Hampshire]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|New Jersey}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|New Jersey State}} || [[New Jersey]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|New Mexico}}
| {{no redirect|New Mexico State}} || [[New Mexico State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|New York}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|New York State}} || [[New York (state)]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|North Carolina}}
| {{no redirect|North Carolina State}} || [[North Carolina State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|North Dakota}}
| {{no redirect|North Dakota State}} || [[North Dakota State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Ohio}}
| {{no redirect|Ohio State}} || [[Ohio State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Oklahoma}}
| {{no redirect|Oklahoma State}} || [[Oklahoma State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Oregon}}
| {{no redirect|Oregon State}} || [[Oregon State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Pennsylvania}}
| {{no redirect|Pennsylvania State}} || [[Pennsylvania State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Rhode Island}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|Rhode Island State}} || [[Rhode Island]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|South Carolina}}
| {{no redirect|South Carolina State}} || [[South Carolina State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|South Dakota}}
| {{no redirect|South Dakota State}} || [[South Dakota State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Tennessee}}
| {{no redirect|Tennessee State}} || [[Tennessee State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Texas}}
| {{no redirect|Texas State}} || [[Texas State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Utah}}
| {{no redirect|Utah State}} || [[Utah State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Vermont}}
| {{no redirect|Vermont State}} || [[Vermont State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Virginia}}
| {{no redirect|Virginia State}} || [[Virginia State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Washington}}
| {{no redirect|Washington State}} || [[Washington State (disambiguation)]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|West Virginia}}
| {{no redirect|West Virginia State}} || [[West Virginia State University]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Wisconsin}}
| {{no redirect|Wisconsin State}} || [[Wisconsin State College of Milwaukee]]
|-
! scope="row" | {{flaglist|Wyoming}}
|style="background: #ffcccc;"| {{no redirect|Wyoming State}} || [[Wyoming]]
|}

36 <code><nowiki>[[</nowiki>''State'' State<nowiki>]]</nowiki></code> are [[special:diff/1312769899|short name]] primary-topic redirects to <code><nowiki>[[</nowiki>''State'' State University<nowiki>]]</nowiki></code>, not incomplete names.

One (Wisconsin State) also redirects to an educational institution, albeit not one named "State University" – [[Wisconsin State College of Milwaukee]].

12 are either {{tl|R from more specific name}} or {{tl|R from longer name}} redirects to the article about that state, or red links which would likely be the same, if created.

One (Washington State) is a disambiguation, with no primary topic between [[Washington State University]] and [[Washington (state)]]. – [[User:Wbm1058|wbm1058]] ([[User talk:Wbm1058|talk]]) 11:19, 23 September 2025 (UTC) amended 15:11, 25 September 2025 (UTC)